Distance problems

After reading Matts shortfall when competing against Mike & Brian the other night.

What can be done if your casting short of the fish ?

Would you go down to 1 hook to gain that extra distance ?

I would use what we call a helicopter rig in carp fishing, with one hook and spins round the main line and will not tangle, it also allows you to use a distance lead which will push your distance to the required amount.

Any thoughts ?

In my case grin and bear it and keep plodding on. I have tried, but my cast has not really improved. I very much doubt if I would use less than two hooks in a match, unless I was specialising for a biggy ... or very desperate.

Nick Hedges wrote:.

What can be done if your casting short of the fish ?


Any thoughts ?

This has come too soon for me after I got battered by Saul in the casting comp at Deal the other week.

My first reaction is to take up golf they have a handicap system and all you need is a few sticks and a couple of balls, and there is no need to go digging bait in the middle of the night for days before the event.

I will contemplate a little longer, i think i may have done a post on this subject somewhere before.

Dave

Dave Andrews wrote:

Nick Hedges wrote:.

What can be done if your casting short of the fish ?


Any thoughts ?

This has come too soon for me after I got battered by Saul in the casting comp at Deal the other week.

My first reaction is to take up golf they have a handicap system and all you need is a few sticks and a couple of balls, and there is no need to go digging bait in the middle of the night for days before the event.

I will contemplate a little longer, i think i may have done a post on this subject somewhere before.

Dave

Dear David

It is obvious that the thrashing that Saul gave you in the British Open has psychologically scarred you. Under no circumstance should you buy, or go near, a set of golf clubs. With your abilities, holes in one will eventually bankrupt you at the bar … or get you black balled from the club for not buying a round.

My advice is to get back fishing as soon as possible and beat Saul. After a win these memories will soon be a thing of the past and your sleep pattern will return to normal. Failing this, read my article on ‘Match anglers psychology’ or consult the NHS (although I went private for the same complaint). Remember, all is not lost and as a last result renew your weekly subscription to Sam Squires for a dozen Devon crabs to be sent up weekly. It worked for me.

Best regards and hopefully a quick recovery.

Deirdre

Dave Chamberlain wrote:
Dear David

It is obvious that the thrashing that Saul gave you in the British Open has psychologically scarred you. Under no circumstance should you buy, or go near, a set of golf clubs. With your abilities, holes in one will eventually bankrupt you at the bar … or get you black balled from the club for not buying a round.

My advice is to get back fishing as soon as possible and beat Saul. After a win these memories will soon be a thing of the past and your sleep pattern will return to normal. Failing this, read my article on ‘Match anglers psychology’ or consult the NHS (although I went private for the same complaint). Remember, all is not lost and as a last result renew your weekly subscription to Sam Squires for a dozen Devon crabs to be sent up weekly. It worked for me.

Best regards and hopefully a quick recovery.

Deirdre

Dear Deirdre,

Thank you for your valued opinion in this matter, I feel much better already - I will get in touch with my private healthcare providers to see if they will cover your fee.

I am now enthused about the Dover comp on Saturday and with 3 hours of darkness to look forward I reckon I can turn the tables on Saul

Thanks Again

David

Ok time for the serious answer- I know you won’t believe it when I say this was written at breakfast time this morning but I can assure you it was.

I would say on a venue like the parade there is scope to fish a lighter mainline say 12 pound this will buy you a few yards.

Smaller baits are obviously more streamlined and cast further. Tackle needs to be as streamlined as possible with correctly functioning bait clips. I am not a great fan on some of these complicated rigs. Cutting down the number of hooks will increase distance but if the anglers nearby are getting fish 3 at a time you are unlikely to catch up by using less hooks.

As far as casting goes it’s the homework and practice before the day which adds the significant distance. I think for whiting and other smaller fish there is scope to go down the long continental rod route with fixed spool reel and very light line. The continentals can certainly cast this type of tackle a long way.

Going back to Sat nights comp I here there were 2 soles over a pound caught so the option often exists to target something different and perhaps go for the biggest fish or flat prize.

Lots of people at the British open ended up going for the biggest fish prize having given up any chance in the numbers stakes.

Nick Hedges wrote:After reading Matts shortfall when competing against Mike & Brian the other night.

What can be done if your casting short of the fish ?

Would you go down to 1 hook to gain that extra distance ?

I would use what we call a helicopter rig in carp fishing, with one hook and spins round the main line and will not tangle, it also allows you to use a distance lead which will push your distance to the required amount.

Any thoughts ?

That brings back alot of memories Nick, the good old helicopter rig, since reinvented by Terry Hearn as the Chod rig!
If you think about it any flapper 1, 2 or 3 hook is a helicopter rig.
I actually think now that if i'd perservered with whiting bashing for the remaining 3 hours things may have been different. Sometimes all it takes is a few double or treble shots of sizeables and your right back in the frame.

with regard to casting....................
first has it got any advantage, well from past fishing matches YES fish are further out in day light matches under most conditions
there is usually a window were they will come to your feet to feed but then push out again so,distance is a advantage in this circumstance.........with regard to night fishing , i think its more to a even keel ,although once again over a low tide up distance once again has a advantage. i am convinced better quality fish are further out in deeper water were there is better tide run.......
as for what can you do well ,i can only speak from personal experience,i first went to a casting lesson what was a total waste of time for me personally,i spent most of the afternoon watching the instructor teach (flirt)a pretty girl how to hold a rod.and realized i must DO AS OTHERS DO ,and don't be content with "this will do"
i am left handed and have had to adapt to a style that suits me ,
many many hours down the park and beach practicing are starting to pay off , a full pendulum is now in practice and the results are astounding compared to my old marks ,when i first started , i have found a rod that is magical for my style and a reel that is fast but forgiving ......
if you want to be competitive you must change & adapt ,i have seen young and old ,all with a style of casting distance & producing the results when needed with the correct gear & no how!!!!!
i am now in at the stage were im building my reels with uprated bearings ,using strong but really supple line,machining little areas for faster running and making shore the maintenance is with out question 100% right ,as your reel above every thing else is the heart of the operation.
i am also building 3 hook rigs that are stream line with very small baits , making shore the weight is aerodynamic not out of shape all it takes is the connector to be out of align and it will helicopter.
i am still in the early stages but really enjoying the feed back from my results as i have casting in my armory and with a full infantry hope to progress to the next level of this sport that i am loving .



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Thanks for sharing that with us Mikey … and there’s me thinking that you were a secret squirrel!

and there's me thinking you were going to tell us Bri Smith was throwing a comp together Sunday at Chequers
secret squirrel in deed ,

Brian Smith is holding a comp at the Chequers on Sunday, from 5pm-9pm. Sign in 4pm, £15 entry … not being secretive, but got engrossed in Emmerdale and EastEnders and forgot.

take a look ,,,,,,,,,very funny
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then take a look at this and let me no which one best resembles your style
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s8mrb wrote:take a look ,,,,,,,,,very funny
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then take a look at this and let me no which one best resembles your style
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Classic! I have tried all of those styles and have ended-up like the other poor guy on the vid … this is the reason I only fish at night … when it’s dark.